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04-17-2011, 05:12 AM | #1 |
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I remember another of Magoos favourite sayings
"a bar girl would rather climb up a greased telegraph pole to tell you a lie than to stand on the ground and tell you the truth" If you want to love a bargirl your business if you want to sponsor your business. I play the game now ive been through the LOS learning curve, fallen in love/sent some money, most have, but few will admit to it, Its all about the money (there may be exceptions) but you are in control, you have the wallet and the balls. If you know how to play well some good friendships can be made, eg I stayed with Joy for 18 days she took me to her family home in Buriram, When we got back to PTTY she told me a sponsor was coming to town and she had to go be with him. "he pay me good money" No bullshit no lies just friends with benefits. freak |
04-17-2011, 07:33 AM | #2 |
I'd just like to say sorry really for coming across so negative on these matters.
I know some members I respect on here have Thai relationships. I think I'm letting my work and personal life with Thai people interfere with my Pattaya postings. IMHO I am experiencing the worst of LOS at the moment. |
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04-17-2011, 12:51 PM | #3 | |
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Before we go any further I'd just like to say I don't expect to see eye to eye with everyone. That's why I like it on here. We can beg to differ. Just off the top of my head I can think of two great mates Roamer and Soi 2. We always have a beer and a laugh but we don't agree on a lot regarding Pattaya. No problem for us and hope you feel the same. I'm speaking the truth when I say most Thai /Falang relationships I have seen have ended in failure. I'm actually surprised you can say 'many' successful relationships. I personally don't agree that they make good wives and cultural differences cannot be ignored if your TG isn't happy with what she is sending home. A good wife to me would put you and her first not some manky family in the jungle. It's possible you and your circle of friends have plenty of money. If that is the case then I admit life may be a lot easier for you than for somebody living month to month like most of the blokes I know who have married TG's. You put over some fair points but the facts and figures are on my side. A newbie would be better off taking my advice than yours. TG's in Pattaya are bastards. We are on a Pattaya board after all. That's where most will be meeting them not off a dating site. I've got to ask you. How long have you and all these other happy couples been together? I probably do sound unhappy at the moment. Jaded as well. Why? Well, I work here for starters. I don't just mix with Pattaya types. I work in a Bangkok office and everyone has a degree. The problem is they are no different. I'm not going to put it on here but let's just say I'm not impressed. The whole race are thieving, dishonest lazy bastards. From the top to the bottom. Yes, English people are shit as well but nowhere near as bad as Thai's. I really dislike them. They are incapable of seeing falangs as anything other than easy money. The cleaner at my condo summed it up for me. She asked me to get her a falang. I asked why she wanted one? Answer? ' I not want to work anymore' That should be added to the Walking Street sign as far as I'm concerned. I can see a holiday maker would like Thai people. Land of smiles and all that shit. I'll give you a couple of examples. We (wife and I) know a lovely old Thai couple who do massage at the market in Rang Sit. They only charge 59 baht. We always give them 200 and they love us to bits. You know the score. Smile OTT falang good mak mak jai dee. Few weeks ago I take my mate Damion down there. We are all getting the foot massage when the old girl asks my wife about my mate. Has he got a girlfriend? When my wife said no she then picks up her phone and makes a call. Some cracking little young TG turns up no more than 18 years old. We all look confused then my wife starts speaking to her. To cut a long story short the girl wants Damion to be her boyfriend. Dammo is all confused so my wife explains. The girl needs somebody to pay for her school. If Dammo pays she'll be his bird. Simple. So the family will whore her out to some falang cunt if he saves them the school fee's. Lovely. Thai's do not like anyone outside of their family. Trust me. Yes, my Dad gave my Mum her house keeping every week but it was different. She spent it ALL on us paying bills and buying shopping and clothes. If my Dad hadn't given it to her we would have all gone without. A TG wants monthly money to send to her family. If you stop giving it to her she will either stay with you and fuck behind your back or just set herself up with another bloke and leave you. A fair deal in my opinion would be to get both your wages. Pay the bills then take the same amount as sends her family and place it in your own personal savings account. I'd like to bet there isn't enough money to do that so shes on the winning side every time. Thai's make living in LOS as difficult as possible for falangs. They don't want you here simple. Yes, come for 2 weeks with about £3000 to spend then fuck off. You can't own anything like a house or land. Even if you marry one of the bastards it won't help you get a permanent visa. It's a nightmare and getting worse. If you do ever live here you will get used to being watched 24/7. Has he dropped something? How can get money from him? How much has he left for tip? Is his house secure? I could go on. As I said before UK is shit but it's a lot worse here. I'm jaded on Thai people for sure but they have made me like that. |
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04-17-2011, 02:13 PM | #4 |
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One of the truer things I've ever had said to me and backing Mirkwood up is that the Thais would be happier if you just chucked your wallet through the doors at Swampy airport when you arrived and fucked off back home.
The land of smiles must be one of the most pisstaking statements ever. |
04-17-2011, 05:21 PM | #5 | |
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I fully respect Mirkwoods explantion of his experince. I am sure he is not a liar. But neither am I so how can two people neither with anything to gain by having different opinions be so different ? There is only one answer. They have had different experiences. Please read my response to his post. |
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Or, you're just paranoid. My mother visited Thailand for a month in November/December and spent a few days down south (it was the rainy season). I mentioned she was visiting to the regional head of immigration, who I know as an acquaintance rather than as a friend, and when she checked-in at her hotel in Had Yai there were two bottles of champagne waiting for her. They were from the same guy. Nothing was asked for, or expected, in return. Likewise, the guy who looks after my motor-bike. Getting him to accept any payment for routine maintenance jobs is impossible - I have to buy a case of beer from the duty free now and again and dump it on him and his guys. I could go on and on about the kindness I encounter on a daily basis, from all sorts of people. From the girls in the bank, the guy who runs my local Khao Phad stall, the security and maintenance guys where I live, the guy who makes sure I have cheap satellite TV, the girls at the local 3BB shop who make sure I have decent internet, all the staff at my local 7-11, the guy who valets my truck. Maybe you should be asking why you have all the problems that you do, rather than just blaming someone for those problems. Quote:
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Sheesh, you maintain that the Thais are all a bunch of thick cunts, but it's you who can't even use the bank or post a fucking letter. I heard David Cameron muttering something recently about immigrants being unwilling to integrate but I thought he was talking about Blackburn, not Bangkok. Isn't the lovedog character who penned the OP the same guy/knob who thinks all Thais should speak in English if he's picking up the tab when eating out and suffers from impaired hearing, but only when people are speaking Thai. Last edited by tom : 04-17-2011 at 03:32 PM. |
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I am so pleased someone on this board has had some similar experiences to those I have had. The very fact shows all the posts made that denigrate all Thai people are really based either on poor experinc or racist attitudes. I hope its the former. |
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04-17-2011, 06:31 PM | #9 | |
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I have put comments in red as it seemed the only way to address all your points and I hope you dont think I am just being awkward. I know many great Thai pople and like some others I have trusted them successfully. I will continue to do so. A number of Thai people have saved me money when it had no real benifits for them to do so. I reject completly your assessment of a whole nation based on your experince of the poorest and most deprived. You really should look around you . You live in and work in BKK you are surrounded by degree qualified educated Thais and for them to treat you with contempt like you suggest means only one thing to me. They dont respect you. In fact you admit that. Could it be they have a point?? I dont want to get into a running war of flames with you. I am sure you hold your views genuinely. But I do want you to know of exepriences completly oppossed to those you feel are universal in LOS and I have been visiting LOS since the 1960s regularly since the 1980s and living there for 3 years in the 1990s. If Thai pople dont like you they will let you know. I think you have been informed by their attitude to you. Perhaps you should reconsider your future employment. Antartica has very few cultural issues. Unless your a penguin. |
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04-17-2011, 02:28 PM | #10 |
I've been on Pattaya message boards over 10 years man and boy.
This is the first time Roland and I have agreed on something. I think it's time to do the Tom Daley swan dive off Markland condo's. |
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