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nosehair
03-14-2007, 07:43 PM
Is it Man U and Chelsea? Could it be Man U and Man City? Liverpool vs. Man U?

Or would it not even involve Man U.....could it be Watford and Bolton?dancing

Does it change with each season?.....what is the biggest rivalry in the Premier League?

torrenova
03-14-2007, 08:00 PM
Newcastle v Sunderland (when Sunderland are not busy getting relegated).
Newcastle v Boro

Obvious candidates are Arsenal v Tottenham, Man U v Man C, Liverpool v Everton

I think there would have been more but some teams are relegated and thus, rivalries diminish for some pairs.

ROLAND
03-14-2007, 08:01 PM
I'd still say Man Utd v Liverpool or maybe Arsenal v Man Utd , not Chelsea v anyone as once Roman has weighed in his missus's divorce settlement he will be skint .

butterflyblonde
03-14-2007, 08:35 PM
Man U - Liverpool.
Arsenal - Tottenham.
Man U - Man City
Portsmouth - Southampton
Man U - Arsenal
Villa - Birmingham (when the Blues were premier league)
Man U - Chelsea
Chelsea - Fulham
Newcastle - Sunderland (again when the black cats were Premier)
Man U - Newcastle
Liverpool - Everton (but they seem to get on)
Man U - Leeds (even though Leeds ain't Premier, nobody hates Man U quite like a Leeds fan hates Man U)

penetrator
03-14-2007, 09:11 PM
Back when Chelsea was still just a medium sized club the West Ham - Chelsea rivalry was pretty big, would usually be plenty of violence among the fans.

West Ham - Millwall is always another good'n for thuggery but of course Millwall are not a premiership team and neither will West Ham be next season - the way things are going West ham may well be meeting Millwall in the old 3rd division after next season :Copy of angry:

jonny
03-14-2007, 09:31 PM
man U Man C is a pretty big one. You are pretty much guaranteed a mass brawl somewhere in town

ferocious
03-14-2007, 09:42 PM
liverpool v manu is the game with the most hatred i've witnessed .! everton & liverpool do get on so-so but i've seen it kick off a few times & i got hit with a pie once thrown from the everton end:bigfinger , the only other game i've been to that matches liverpool v manu is leeds v manu , battling everywhere & very entertaining for a nuetral fan

Thebomb
03-14-2007, 09:48 PM
liverpool v manu is the game with the most hatred i've witnessed .! everton & liverpool do get on so-so but i've seen it kick off a few times & i got hit with a pie once thrown from the everton end:bigfinger , the only other game i've been to that matches liverpool v manu is leeds v manu , battling everywhere & very entertaining for a nuetral fan

fuckin hell!! throwin pies!!! fuckin physcos!!

ferocious
03-14-2007, 09:51 PM
what a mess it made

Thebomb
03-14-2007, 09:53 PM
wasnt one of those heat seeking meat and potatoes was it??? surface to air cornish pasty???

ferocious
03-14-2007, 09:56 PM
steak i think... paul & shark jumper splattered in gravy , dinnertime kick-off so i was stuck in the cunt .. rather been chinned

penetrator
03-14-2007, 10:00 PM
For the Septics and Aussies on here the biggest rivalry in British football is not actually in England but up in Scotland. When Rangers and Celtic play each other the hospitals in the south west of Scotland get filled with fans of either side who've been attacked by the opposition.

It's mostly down to religion and Irish/Ulster loyalties, the Rangers fans are mostly Protestant and believe in Ulster being part of the UK and the Celtic fans mostly Catholic and supporting a united Ireland.

Thebomb
03-14-2007, 10:00 PM
bastard.....hate it when that happens.....got a jam doughnut thrown at me when i was at college...had a white jumper on,with a big red splodge on ma back for the day...tosser

jonny
03-14-2007, 10:05 PM
ferocious what a fucking waste! I hope you wiped it off your face and ate what you could save?

ferocious
03-14-2007, 10:11 PM
fuck that jonny , the blue nosed cunt had probably wiped his knob on it

jonny
03-14-2007, 10:14 PM
and???

BorisBroomhead
03-15-2007, 06:48 AM
Had a mate who went to many Arsenal games. He reckons the fans were more interested in whether Tottenham were losing than watching their own game

Fork Handles
03-15-2007, 07:04 AM
I remember a Liverpool fan claiming that theirs was the only derby where rival fans could walk to the game together, coz everybody on Merseyside hates the rest of the world more than they hate each other.:gunsmilie:

ferocious
03-15-2007, 07:46 AM
I remember a Liverpool fan claiming that theirs was the only derby where rival fans could walk to the game together, coz everybody on Merseyside hates the rest of the world more than they hate each other.:gunsmilie:


i've seen everton join with liverpool when manu are in town , also heard lots of stories of them joining up to fight other teams

woodman2
03-15-2007, 08:25 PM
I once copped a smack on the back of the head at a Man U v Leeds FA Cup semi final at Hillsborough. Knocked me down a couple of steps.

I gingerly put my hand up to feel what it was. Got a hand full of warm liquid and some mushy pulp. "Fucking Hell me brains" I thought.
Same as Reg on closer inspection it turned out to be a pork pie.

It must of been a stale one cos it didnt half ring my bell.

Garp
03-15-2007, 08:32 PM
Liverpool/Man U without a doubt you can taste the hatred, and that's just the players.

ROLAND
03-15-2007, 08:33 PM
The only time I ever hit someone was at Wembley when I twatted a Man U idiot during the cup final.
All the other times I ran to preserve my good looks :whistling:

nosehair
03-15-2007, 08:56 PM
I once copped a smack on the back of the head at a Man U v Leeds FA Cup semi final at Hillsborough. Knocked me down a couple of steps.

I gingerly put my hand up to feel what it was. Got a hand full of warm liquid and some mushy pulp. "Fucking Hell me brains" I thought.
Same as Reg on closer inspection it turned out to be a pork pie.

It must of been a stale one cos it didnt half ring my bell.

Were they aiming for you woody....or was it a lucky toss?dancing

BorisBroomhead
03-15-2007, 10:14 PM
In the 80’s you would read about a fan caught with a sock full of snooker balls. Now that guy was looking for trouble.

Fork Handles
03-16-2007, 07:27 AM
I Same as Reg on closer inspection it turned out to be a pork pie.

It must of been a stale one cos it didnt half ring my bell.

And inspired Benny Hill's epic saga.....


"A stale pork pie
Caught him in the eye
And Woody bit the dust."
:dj:

nosehair
03-23-2007, 03:00 PM
How many teams in the Premier League will be demoted before next season and what will happen to the best players on those squads?

Do most players have clauses in there contracts that if the club drops from Premier level they can opt out of there contract?

What clubs from the lower division are most likely to be promoted?

Any top flight Premier players about to become "free agents" and able to negotiate a contract with another club for next season...such as Ronaldo...how many years is he tied to ManU...same same Rooney.... and Lampard with Chelsea?

ferocious
03-23-2007, 04:15 PM
usually the top players have a clause in their contracts if they get relegated they can move on , 3 teams will be relegated nose & i think derby county , sunderland & birmingham city will be the 3 to come up JMO... Players in the premiership generally sign a 4 year contract bu that can be extended at any time if both parties are happy as ronaldo is negotiating at the moment , very rare big clubs will let their players get within 2 years of their contract expiring.. if you get to six months remaining on your contract you are free to discuss with other clubs

BigBadSi
03-24-2007, 07:54 PM
from my experience

Leeds/sheffield utd
Leeds/scumchester bastards
leeds/chelsea cockney ponces

Leeds were a highly respected(like the ICF of west ham) so ended up battling alot i think everyne goes to leeds expecting a scrap/.

My most recent a few year ago Leeds v wigan where most my mates got 3 year banning orders one of the lads i was with was sayi ng that was the best scrap in 5 year ,,,,must have been old skool

Thebomb
03-24-2007, 09:23 PM
aye there tough lads from wigan,harder than your average leeds fairy

ferocious
03-25-2007, 08:44 AM
from my experience

Leeds/sheffield utd
Leeds/scumchester bastards
leeds/chelsea cockney ponces

Leeds were a highly respected(like the ICF of west ham) so ended up battling alot i think everyne goes to leeds expecting a scrap/.

My most recent a few year ago Leeds v wigan where most my mates got 3 year banning orders one of the lads i was with was sayi ng that was the best scrap in 5 year ,,,,must have been old skool


funny enough i was there si , i know a couple of leeds fans & i went as they had a spare ticket..! it was like the 80's , massive kick off outside the wigan end & in the coachpark over the road police horses the lot , i stood by the bremner statue watching from a safe distance:viannen_10:

nosehair
05-08-2007, 11:46 AM
The ManU/Chelsea contest tomorrow night, that looked so important a couple of weeks ago, isn't getting much notice anymore.....or am I wrong.

Will this be one of Ronaldo's last games for ManU?....will he be playing for Real Madrid next season?

Who are the likely teams to be added to next years Premier League season?...who will be demoted?...any other stars expected to be in different uniforms next season?

ferocious
05-08-2007, 12:01 PM
the chelsea/man u game is now being billed as the champions league 3rd/4th play off nose lol... i think ronaldo will still be there next season !
birmingham city & sunderland have been promoted to the pemiership with one more to follow after the play offs , charlton & watford have been relegated to the championship with one of either west ham , wigan or sheffield united to join them

nosehair
05-08-2007, 06:47 PM
Thanks reg....a couple of questions....lets say that Sheffield United is dropped from Premier League status....what happens to there top players like Hulse....would a player have an out in his contract if his team fell out of the Premier League?.....

Do teams in lesser levels still get shown on TV, share in TV revenue etc. Do players not in the P/L still get endorsement contracts? Who are some of the top players on Birmingham and Sunderland?

Were there any players on the World Cup team that were not in the Premier League?

Bilbobaggins
05-08-2007, 07:02 PM
Can't believe I missed this thread :disgust:

Never mind.
For me its obviously City-red twats BUT I have seen more than a few hairy moments in my times following football.....
City-united every time just about

City Leeds a few times
City Tottenham (must be down to that argie cunt in 81)
City Wigan, mass brawl in the car park at their old gorund Springfield Park 99 play-off semi
City stockport (believe it or not they have a decent small mob)
City Villa fuck knows why
City Millwall a few times, best when in about 92? City done them at London Bridge station
City Birmingham........the list could go on but I won't bore you with just City matches, others I have been to.....
Southampton Portsmouth, up in London, FA Cup day, saints were at spurs, pompey at Palace, kicked off at Covent Garden, tear gas the lot, good ruck
Burnley at a few places, they are not called the suicide squad for nothing!
Millwall Derby in the playoffs a few years back was manic

Loads more..........

Baggins...:boxing:

Fork Handles
05-08-2007, 08:57 PM
Thanks reg....a couple of questions....lets say that Sheffield United is dropped from Premier League status....what happens to there top players like Hulse....would a player have an out in his contract if his team fell out of the Premier League?.....

Do teams in lesser levels still get shown on TV, share in TV revenue etc. Do players not in the P/L still get endorsement contracts? Who are some of the top players on Birmingham and Sunderland?

Were there any players on the World Cup team that were not in the Premier League?


Just reading about Sunderland yesterday. Who would have have thought Roy Keane had the right stuff to manage a successful team?
What next, Ireland?

ferocious
05-08-2007, 08:59 PM
Just reading about Sunderland yesterday. Who would have have thought Roy Keane had the right stuff to manage a successful team?
What next, Ireland?


what about him being at man u next ash ?? 3 or 4 years time

BigBadSi
05-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Thanks reg....a couple of questions....lets say that Sheffield United is dropped from Premier League status....what happens to there top players like Hulse....would a player have an out in his contract if his team fell out of the Premier League?.....

Do teams in lesser levels still get shown on TV, share in TV revenue etc. Do players not in the P/L still get endorsement contracts? Who are some of the top players on Birmingham and Sunderland?

Were there any players on the World Cup team that were not in the Premier League?

Some players have outs on their contracts nose that had been agreed before signing doubt hulse will though

Fork Handles
05-09-2007, 08:11 AM
what about him being at man u next ash ?? 3 or 4 years time

Looks like Fergy wants to keep going......probably fancies 10 premierships.

Be interesting to see who finally gets the nod, Keano might be in if he controls his emotions.

Wouldn't be surprised if they chased Mourinho, but the Dutch style seems more like MU.

old crust
05-09-2007, 04:37 PM
Can't believe I missed this thread :disgust:

Never mind.
For me its obviously City-red twats BUT I have seen more than a few hairy moments in my times following football.....
City-united every time just about

City Leeds a few times
City Tottenham (must be down to that argie cunt in 81)
City Wigan, mass brawl in the car park at their old gorund Springfield Park 99 play-off semi
City stockport (believe it or not they have a decent small mob)
City Villa fuck knows why
City Millwall a few times, best when in about 92? City done them at London Bridge station
City Birmingham........the list could go on but I won't bore you with just City matches, others I have been to.....
Southampton Portsmouth, up in London, FA Cup day, saints were at spurs, pompey at Palace, kicked off at Covent Garden, tear gas the lot, good ruck
Burnley at a few places, they are not called the suicide squad for nothing!
Millwall Derby in the playoffs a few years back was manic

Loads more..........

Baggins...:boxing:

You an Old Guv'nor Bilbo?

old crust
05-09-2007, 05:03 PM
Thanks reg....a couple of questions....lets say that Sheffield United is dropped from Premier League status....what happens to there top players like Hulse....would a player have an out in his contract if his team fell out of the Premier League?.....

Do teams in lesser levels still get shown on TV, share in TV revenue etc. Do players not in the P/L still get endorsement contracts? Who are some of the top players on Birmingham and Sunderland?

Were there any players on the World Cup team that were not in the Premier League?

I doubt if Hulse would get a club in the Premier if the Blades go down.

Most players will have some sort of endorsement contract.

On Monday the Conference North Divisional play off final (five leagues lower than the Premier) is live on television. Although not as much as Premier clubs get, the lower leagues do get TV payouts. If they are the home team, they get around £100,000.

Players from the lower leagues do sometimes turn out for England. The last being Nugent from Preston in Englands last game.

I think Sunderland will recruit big time for the new season. Their best player (Kavanagh) has been injured and like a few others in the team may be shown the door. Birmingham will recruit a few players. They are a physical team, which worked for them this season, but does'nt count for much in the Premier and will be relegated again. West Brom are the best team in the play offs, but have a few key players out, injured and suspended, including Kamara, who was the best player I saw in the Championship this season. Whatever happens the play off winners will go down again next season, sad but true.

Bilbobaggins
05-09-2007, 08:34 PM
You an Old Guv'nor Bilbo?

Nah, but I have shared a few beers with some of them, they were a bit before my time.
I used to love a good tear-up but wouldn't bother with it anymore, too many cameras, too severe punishments if caught. And! I am too old!
I suppose I had to try that bit harder, I am from down south, born in Singapore too(maybe should be a man u(re) fan) not so easy to be accepted.
Met some great characters thru it all tho, don't regret a thing.
Just a couple more, England in Germany (THE 5-1) was brilliant, kicked off all day long.
England v Tunisia WC France 98 down in Marseille, absolute mayhem, such an adrenaline rush.
Man City Hamburg a few years back when Keegan was with us, pre-season friendly, trouble everywhere, NAC Breda (Dutch team) were there too, along with hamburgs 2nd team St Pauli, an explosive mix. Great weekend away, 5000 City fans there, beer sunshine and ladies of the night...........

Baggins...:hypocrite:

BigBadSi
05-09-2007, 10:10 PM
ah bilbo those were the days i had my fare share of scraps in late 90`s till early 00`s the buzz was unrivalled